May 2, 2012
amoristunbound:

ardentsonata:

lovebeats:

epopeyadechuy:

notreallykira:

ladyatheist:

jungle—fish:

asianhistory:

twistedasphyxia:

gunnyoshiaki:

Some sort of scientists believe that if the Library of Alexandria didn’t burn down or the Dark Ages never happened, we would be 300 years advanced in technology. :>

This is depressing. l:

 This isn’t something I would normally reblog on FyeahAsianHistory except this is why this blog exists. This is EXACTLY why this blog exists. Let’s put this in perspective of the very limited knowledge I have on both the Western European Middle Ages/Medieval Period/ quote “Dark Ages”, and Egypt in this time period plus everything I know about Asia as a whole.
This? This is bullshit. There’s no nice way to say it. Was the Library of Alexandria a huge, devastating loss? Absolutely. But it was “lost” more than once, and it was certainly burned before Christianity at least once and there was more than one branch of the library. Take a quick look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria there are sources saying Muslims destroyed it, and sources saying Christians ordered to have the “temple” burned down.
So on that account, it’s a load of crap. On other accounts: As any Medievalist will fervently tell you, the “Dark Ages” is a very misleading term. Loads of cool things happened during the Middle Ages in Europe. But look at Asia. Look at say, Islam which collected new libraries, brought back those “lost” Greek and Roman works, started Universities, invented the astrolabe. Look at the Silk road towards the beginning, and hell, even onwards. WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA. India’s Chola Dynasty Maritime power. How about China’s first standing navy with “junk” ships? What about moveable type printing invented by the Chinese? Gunpowder warfare? How about a freakin’ odometer? WHAT ABOUT COFFEE? Hospitals? Female Surgeons.
Try looking up “Islamic Golden Age.” Really, just try it.
What was the “Dark Ages” for Europe (which is highly debateable) was the Golden Ages of Islam, the end of the Classical Age in Japan, and a period of awesome invention, innovation, and exploration for China and through several dynasties to boot. Say, there’s a funny little thing called “Pax Mongolica” and it lead to a lot of good things.
Listen, Europe and Christianity may have dun goofed a little, and some of the consequences will never be the same, but while they were on a bit of a downer, the OTHER HALF OF THE EURASIAN CONTINENT WAS DOING PRETTY OKAY. Really.
I run this blog because I want people to know that The West, Christianity, and Europe are not solely responsible for the successes or failures of the human race and innovation. Because I want people to know that before the Bible, there was Gilgamesh. That in the 11th century, a Japanese woman composed the world’s first novel. That people in the Islamic world translated the texts we consider so important in the Western Canon of Greek and Roman literature today. That India, Japan, China, and much of the Islamic empire all had golden/classical periods occuring during this time period. China became the first country in the world to use paper money in their banks.
Listen guys, if I want you to take away one thing, it’s that just because Europe sleeps doesn’t mean the world doesn’t make leaps and bounds. 

^FUCKING THANK YOU MAN


yes this. 
personally because I’m a huge dork I consider the Mongolian siege of Baghdad and the end of the Abbasid Caliphate/Islamic Golden Age more of a loss to potential human knowledge than the burning of the Library at Alexandria. 
and the insistence that Europe is the center and wellspring of all humanity’s scientific advancements is some white bullshit that itself has led to less interaction and cooperation. 

I agree with everything we said here. Especially where we said the Christians goofed.

Oh good. My first thought upon seeing that gif was 1. WHERE THE FUCK IS CHINA and 2.  Islamic Golden Age hello? so yes good :>

Oh man. I just LOVE Eurocentrism
/sarcasm
[Video by John Green showing just how “dark” the Dark Ages really were]
The whitewashing of history needs to fucking stop. Immediately.

I am absolutely in love with the commentary on this post, especially because I agree that the Mongolian siege of Baghdad was probably the most awful loss of knowledge that’s happened in human history. Eurocentrism seriously needs to fucking stop. A lot of cool stuff happened in Europe, but it is not and never has been the wellspring of all scientific advancement.
Also, who came up with that graph? What is the context?

amoristunbound:

ardentsonata:

lovebeats:

epopeyadechuy:

notreallykira:

ladyatheist:

jungle—fish:

asianhistory:

twistedasphyxia:

gunnyoshiaki:

Some sort of scientists believe that if the Library of Alexandria didn’t burn down or the Dark Ages never happened, we would be 300 years advanced in technology. :>

This is depressing. l:

 This isn’t something I would normally reblog on FyeahAsianHistory except this is why this blog exists. This is EXACTLY why this blog exists. Let’s put this in perspective of the very limited knowledge I have on both the Western European Middle Ages/Medieval Period/ quote “Dark Ages”, and Egypt in this time period plus everything I know about Asia as a whole.

This? This is bullshit. There’s no nice way to say it. Was the Library of Alexandria a huge, devastating loss? Absolutely. But it was “lost” more than once, and it was certainly burned before Christianity at least once and there was more than one branch of the library. Take a quick look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria there are sources saying Muslims destroyed it, and sources saying Christians ordered to have the “temple” burned down.

So on that account, it’s a load of crap. On other accounts: As any Medievalist will fervently tell you, the “Dark Ages” is a very misleading term. Loads of cool things happened during the Middle Ages in Europe. But look at Asia. Look at say, Islam which collected new libraries, brought back those “lost” Greek and Roman works, started Universities, invented the astrolabe. Look at the Silk road towards the beginning, and hell, even onwards. WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA. India’s Chola Dynasty Maritime power. How about China’s first standing navy with “junk” ships? What about moveable type printing invented by the Chinese? Gunpowder warfare? How about a freakin’ odometer? WHAT ABOUT COFFEE? Hospitals? Female Surgeons.

Try looking up “Islamic Golden Age.” Really, just try it.

What was the “Dark Ages” for Europe (which is highly debateable) was the Golden Ages of Islam, the end of the Classical Age in Japan, and a period of awesome invention, innovation, and exploration for China and through several dynasties to boot. Say, there’s a funny little thing called “Pax Mongolica” and it lead to a lot of good things.

Listen, Europe and Christianity may have dun goofed a little, and some of the consequences will never be the same, but while they were on a bit of a downer, the OTHER HALF OF THE EURASIAN CONTINENT WAS DOING PRETTY OKAY. Really.

I run this blog because I want people to know that The West, Christianity, and Europe are not solely responsible for the successes or failures of the human race and innovation. Because I want people to know that before the Bible, there was Gilgamesh. That in the 11th century, a Japanese woman composed the world’s first novel. That people in the Islamic world translated the texts we consider so important in the Western Canon of Greek and Roman literature today. That India, Japan, China, and much of the Islamic empire all had golden/classical periods occuring during this time period. China became the first country in the world to use paper money in their banks.

Listen guys, if I want you to take away one thing, it’s that just because Europe sleeps doesn’t mean the world doesn’t make leaps and bounds.

^FUCKING THANK YOU MAN

yes this. 

personally because I’m a huge dork I consider the Mongolian siege of Baghdad and the end of the Abbasid Caliphate/Islamic Golden Age more of a loss to potential human knowledge than the burning of the Library at Alexandria. 

and the insistence that Europe is the center and wellspring of all humanity’s scientific advancements is some white bullshit that itself has led to less interaction and cooperation. 

I agree with everything we said here. Especially where we said the Christians goofed.

Oh good. My first thought upon seeing that gif was 1. WHERE THE FUCK IS CHINA and 2.  Islamic Golden Age hello? so yes good :>

Oh man. I just LOVE Eurocentrism

/sarcasm

[Video by John Green showing just how “dark” the Dark Ages really were]

The whitewashing of history needs to fucking stop. Immediately.

I am absolutely in love with the commentary on this post, especially because I agree that the Mongolian siege of Baghdad was probably the most awful loss of knowledge that’s happened in human history. Eurocentrism seriously needs to fucking stop. A lot of cool stuff happened in Europe, but it is not and never has been the wellspring of all scientific advancement.

Also, who came up with that graph? What is the context?

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